but as it stand DSLR is still outselling mirorless in unites produced and shipped. I have friends in the entertainment industry that liked my style and asked me to shoot their show, then their wedding and it just started snowballing from there. The raw image is the measured data from the sensor and anything captured is in it or not. and if you really need a FF sensor for any other reason, go for A7 III or any other according to your needs, if you need better grip put the ad-on one. Now, tin the real world situation we can clearly see that Sony A7 III dynamic range is near about 12 stops. Find out in our initial review. so don't even try talking to us about what's on-topic, you are way off-base. But thats just me. old as in proven tech. If you need low light sensitivity go for GH5S, if you need shallower dof go for metabone speedbooster x.65 and add sigma 18-35 f/1.8 that ends up f/1.2 zoom lens. @ Rob40: Read the text more carefully, and look closer at how segments are grouped. If you wanted to go from A6500 with high burst large buffer there were no other options in Sony FF line. They are tools and they have to do your job. :-(, and yes, i do post pics on dpr, lol: https://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/60889046. It’s also worth noting that, with both cameras, you’ll have the option of a wide range of Sony FE (full frame) lenses. As usual, because you cannot argue with a personal preference which for some seems too hard to swallow. The point is that the D7500 will outperform the A7II if you take the same picture with the same depth of field. It's a sweetspot between willingness to pay and userbase.- Because cameras are used by humans, they require some ergonomics (size of the viewfinder, grip, etc) you can only benefit of sensor size reduction to a certain extent and micro 4/3 camera's and lenses aren't 2 times smaller. But of course, current tests are designed to let canon perform badly. LadislavCZ - Yes I fully accept that most people don't shoot in harsh conditions, although anyone can get caught out in an unexpected rainstorm occasionally. The comment seems to imply that there is no DR/shadow noise advantage to utilizing exposure bracketing if the camera is "ISO invariant." Maybe initial discovery of settings was easier on the Canon, but the Sony is just as easy after using it for a minute. There is more and better information available here.BTW: are you sure that Em1.2 cannot use strobes because I can tell you how to set it on my Em1.2. Won't be perfect but better than smearing details with PP. This is a great result, but also comes as no surprise: noise performance is broadly determined by a combination of sensor size and technology, and we've recently seen some significant improvements to sensor technology made by Sony. "So what's the take-away? "Yes, but that's because as you raise the ISO setting, the amplification clips brighter signals earlier". You can find them on the mFT forum but there are also those that you can find on the internet. It might not be that big of a deal, but with Sony you know the sensors and lenses are fully optimized. Looking at th DPReview photos, the Sony A7ii is inferior to the top apsc sensors...just like they said. I use their camera straps on my Sony!! You may choose lighter gear at your own preference but don't lie about equivalence and call other people names for pointing it out. The new A7II sits between the A7S and A7R for Colour Depth and Dynamic Range offering a good compromise between resolution, Colour Depth and Dynamic Range. @RubberDials , the A7 series are built like disposable cameras. But when a photographer make a living with a camera, why not choosing the camera which ticks more boxes :) This auto focus capabilities convince even guys like Tony Northrup who said a few years ago that for sports you have to choose a DSLR. As for the A7III, it appears to be a very fine piece of kit and quite reasonably priced compared to most... @Darkroom, I never denied that high end mft cameras are very capable. I had the A7RIII in my hand (a7III wasn’t yet available in the UK) and as soon as I had the G9 in my hand I was sold. I love Fuji colours, but are they "neutral" in any way? The only issue I really have is that I cannot use the touchscreen to navigate the menu. The 70-200 f/4 is perfectly handholdable. Good job Sony, it took you almost 3 years to slightly edge out the D750! "I find it difficult to believe that dynamic range at base ISO 100 is only 0.4 EV/stops off the dynamic range at ISO 640, where the sensor works with only 1/6th of the light.". And I'm sure that many won't change to a mirrorless even if canon and nikon present one. As important as dynamic range is, you would think that manufacturers would test all these cameras in some systematic way and tell you how wide the dynamic range is for each model. There was a gap in FF line up for that at decent price point and its not the case with A7III anymore. To me a good cam must be good for me. We threw this one in here because the a7 III and a7R II are currently being sold for roughly similar price (the latter is $400 more expensive), so we're aware of some discussion about choosing between the two. Sony has also given the Alpha A7 II some of the video features of the A7S. Panasonic, that more or less started some kind of such service just approx two years ago. Want the best, or the more traditional tech? Call the new test "standardized ISO test" I think a lot of folks would lub it. This whole "ISO thing" needs an article to explain it in detail. If there are bright highlights that would be clipped at ISO 6400, then use ISO invariance exposing strategy/pushing at post. https://i0.wp.com/farm1.staticflickr.com/307/19768693118_400a5a8ea7_o.jpg?resize=477%2C328&ssl=1. But it does offer great image quality and good dynamic range, plus it has the lower price tag, so it’s certainly not a camera to dismiss out of hand. Also for portraits?A 'pro' that thinks about switching to FF and only THEN realising that the lenses are the thing that are adding a lot of weight? In all other shooting scenarios it's absolutely fine. Keep sime highlights when you have so much of it!!! bottom line, it shoots sharp images and covers my needs. For low light work: Use ISO 640 or higher, or use ISO 640 and push the files at post processing to keep highlight that is so bright that it would be clipped at higher ISO settings. In photography, dynamic range refers to the ratio of light intensity captured by a camera's sensor (whites and blacks). Point 2 slightly infuriates me - all the recent Sonys are great for video, yet they can't be arsed to put in a useful screen even in their video-focused cameras (A7S and RX10's). I'm thinking too but want make sure mc11 will be bulletproof with Canon lenses. Dynamic range sony a7 iii - Der Vergleichssieger unseres Teams. Jorginho, you seem to have very little knowledge of the demands of professional photographers or client needs... hiRes mode is a gimmick for the last 1% of quality that no one needs. Stick to your em1.2 and do your back some good. The Sony way is to tilt for waist level viewing on the lens axis. Peter 1976: your first reply to Mike was not on topic at all. Now a Leica M10 with only 1/3 EV of highlight headroom becomes a "innovation" against the old model that does 1 stop reservation. all it takes to screw up that test is a slight mis-focus, which dpr has done in the past. But according to DXOmark the amount of DR decreases normally from base ISO with a little bump at ~ISO800. Canon sensor performance is actually on par with Sony. Sony had virtually no users 10 years ago. Sony claims 15 stops dynamic range iso is still the same as previous a7s2 – 409600 Base ISO for slog 3 is 160 instead of 1600 (As7II) on the pre-production unit. At the end of the day they are giving more light to the Sony A7III by leaving the shutter open 20% longer at iso 100. The plots look like the DR is (partially) linearly dependent on ISO rating. For landscape photographers, dynamic range plays a huge role in the craft because it lets photographers capture a huge range of color. If you have enough light to expose ISOs 200-500 correctly, you should use those ISOs. Isn't that really old fashioned? That's because we're still testing it in a real-world sense, and haven't come to any conclusive conclusions yet. Many people gravitate towards the MC-11 due to the low cost and high compatibility. @ Keep Calm: Is there a problem with that? this camera's sensor lured so many people to be part of the hype,waiting for the review about handling and control, or i just need to check this part at a7r iii review. Mike which two equivalent lenses you are taking about that give you same dof control on both format? Better too many than too few! This means that whenever you're comparing ISO X on one camera to ISO X on the camera, no matter how the manufacturer rated their ISO, you are comparing like for like. :), Isn’t “it's commonly accepted knowledge that a7/II underperformed by a huge margin at high ISO.” a bit exaggerated? Zu guter Letzt konnte sich beim Dynamic range sony a7 iii Test der Testsieger hervortun. If that is important to you don't buy the Sony. they just stick their label on it like Zeis.. (didnt check that fact). Equivalent metabones speedbooster x.65 and sigma 18-35 f/1.8 is 2.4, not f/1.2 zo. Photo News. As a bystander, loitering around the edge of this scene, you come off not particularly well. @jorginho - what's "informative" about mike claiming that he likes a light-weight camera? So off balance. In numbers, that's 14.6 EV and 14.8 EV for the a7 III and a7R III, respectively, which falls within our margin of error. "This is a gear website and it's what we want. What’s the best camera costing over $2500? When set wrong it causes noise by over adjusting the image.. The grip and the menus are just so-so. That's true, but none of those sensors recover the same amount of dynamic range that DPReview is reporting here (~1.7 stops), at least using traditional definitions of dynamic range, including the A7R2 that DPReview is comparing against. In the DXO link the A7 scores are less than double the D7500 (1483 vs 2248). Sony designs cameras like boxes, and that's why the ergonomics are not there on most of their models. DPR has a great primer on the subject. Because cameras are tools and it is essential to learn how to use them properly, realize the potential of each tool and understand how it actually works.It's so wonderful to see that despite all of the global spread of ignorance and intellectual degradation, we still have some places on the web not based entirely on touchy-feely artsy fairy tales, pseudo-tech mythology and pure BS. Overheating, poor weathersealing to mention some other things are typical for Sony too. have a good one! Yet, you claim to know what professionals are and use. Check out our sample gallery and decide for yourself. Why are you surprised? At least it was real and not all of this flaming crap some seem to be so good at. The smaller buffer of D750/6D2/5DmarkIV would limit me far more for example then on A7III. Yes, but that's because as you raise the ISO setting, the amplification clips brighter signals earlier. I think your guess with noise is correct. . I don't think you got the right concept of Flat Earth yet. But most of all: there is me. Your last reply: Mike just explained how he feels about this cam and how it is not for him. All the other stuff that are important to photography is completely out of the reach for the charts. ;-)Having more functionality even if derived from other cameras while keeping what is already great about this is something Sony should strive for. :-) (grinn,. AF is very good and overall package is perfect when travelling. You decide yourself when you want to upgrade your camera. All the little branches off an original source, "I am a little new around here. The Sony A7 III achieves an overall DxOMark sensor score of 96 points and ranks in the top five best Sony sensors we’ve tested, just behind the full-frame Sony Cyber-shot DSC-RX1R II fixed-lens compact camera, and the Sony A7R II. LOL! I could explain it to you, but I can’t understand it for you... Now, some might argue that a shallow dof is a challenge for mft, but that’s for another time. They can actually be extremely helpful when it comes to learning how to get the most out of the camera in day to day photography. I wonder if the A7iii sensor design may be more forgiving for adapted wide angle lenses? My Canon lenses focus as well as Sigma lenses with the Metabones. Yes, I know that there are many people in photography who love cameras for no other reason except to test the technical abilities of their equipment, and I do not mind. Why are these graphs so different between two measurements? I don't know what your problem is. the ecosystem is wider, bigger and there is more experience. DXOMark isn’t showing anything close to this, maybe a small bump in dynamic range at ISO 640. Olympus has confirmed the transfer of its imaging business to Japan Industrial Partners Inc. has been completed, paving way for the future of the OM and Zuiko brands. At ISOs 640 and above, most recent Sony sensors use a higher gain mode that essentially amplifies the signal at the pixel-level to get it above the (already pretty low) noise floor. Mike just states that FOR him the Sony when we look at the whole system doesn't get what he want because it gets him more weight he doesn't like. ;)).A 'pro' that asks things like 'Why would anyone only want one eye in focus anyway'... really? In Single drive mode, compressed Raw continues to use 14-bit sensor readout, so measured roughly the same dynamic range as Uncompressed (it dropped 0.1 EV, but that's within our margin of error). 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